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OPD 老师选 SFT 还是 RLVR,遗忘差一截:MSR Furu Wei/Li Dong OPDArena(证据偏软 → 7)
OPD 老师选 SFT 还是 RLVR,遗忘差一截:MSR Furu Wei/Li Dong OPDArena(证据偏软 → 7)
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老师来源强烈塑造保留:RLVR 老师的学生涨目标任务同时更留住先验能力,SFT 老师学生能力损失更大。
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Abstract:On-policy distillation (OPD) is increasingly used for language model post-training, yet how teacher supervision shapes learning and forgetting remains unclear. We present OPDArena, a framework comparing supervised fine-tuning (SFT), reinforcement learning with verifiable rewards (RLVR), and OPD across five pretrained models and diverse teacher sources. It jointly evaluates mathematical learning, general capability retention, and predictive distribution changes. Teacher choice strongly shapes retention: students of RLVR-trained teachers improve on the target task while retaining prior capabilities, whereas students of SFT-trained teachers incur greater capability loss. Across post-training methods, out-of-domain (OOD) distribution change shows a more consistent positive association with forgetting than in-domain change. To understand how teacher choice affects these changes, we examine the additional information teachers provide relative to the student's pretrained model. Controlled teacher comparisons show that the task-specific preferences teachers acquire through post-training make student updates more concentrated in-domain.
| Comments: | Code: this https URL |
| Subjects: | Machine Learning (cs.LG) |
| Cite as: | arXiv:2610.25651 [cs.LG] |
| (or arXiv:2610.25651v1 [cs.LG] for this version) | |
| https://doi.org/10.48550/arXiv.2610.25651 arXiv-issued DOI via DataCite |
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From: Yuanze Xu [view email]
[v1]
Mon, 19 Oct 2026 01:51:24 UTC (594 KB)
Source: Agent Control Flash News · arxiv.org
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