#大佬观点
#大佬观点
今日 4 条Meta高管Finkd和Wang讨论了Muse Wonder及其前沿模型构建,并展望了AI未来。
引用John Collison@collisionCheeky Pint is back! Mark Zuckerberg @finkd and Alexandr Wang @alexandr_wang came to the pub to discuss their new frontier model, Muse Wonder. 00:00:24 Muse’s breakout use cases 00:07:28 The model is the product 00:14:35 Muse Wonder 00:24:56 How frontier models are built 00:48:26 Betting $100B 01:07:21 Agentic commerce 01:19:34 OpenRouter 01:20:06 Beyond the smartphone 01:27:00 Funding 01:34:06 Why AI won’t be winner-take-all 01:40:46 Meta Superintelligence Labs (MSL) 02:08:11 Working for Mark Zuckerberg
- 引用月球大叔@uncle_moon_x
这个Anthropic披露的文件是真的吗? 2021年7月 - 讨论1T模型的训练和RL - 讨论硬件的风险,TPU,Trainium - 讨论language,code,diffs,PRs,等数据集的构造 - 讨论各种各样的coding工具 - 讨论各种scaling law,reward model,test time compute,long context,memory - 讨论RL for tool use??? 每一个单词现在看完全不吃惊,但在当时2021,同时出现在一个文档,让我再次惊叹,人的认知差距可以跨这么多年吗 https://i.smitop.com/concise-research-roadmap.pdf
DeepSeek 刘胜宇认为LLM产业化中,机器成本超过人力成本,工程经验比原始智能更重要。财务自由不能带来创造自由,进入新领域需深入学习、取得成果或具备整合资源的能力。
引用Andrej Karpathy@karpathyDusting off this tweet from April because this gap in shared understanding of LLM capability is *widening*. It's now less "two groups of people speaking past each other" and more a sharp funnel. - Napkin math somewhere around 6B people (~75% of the population) have barely come in contact with LLMs at all. - Around 1-2B (~20%) are casual and infrequent users of free-tier ChatGPT-like products. This group sees derpy chatbots and treats them a bit like a better Google search, a writing aid, or etc. Maybe an agent tries to book you a flight. I have non-tech friends who (reasonably, imo) say they have not much use for it at all. Even many professionals outside of math&code are in this tier. For example, execs and many other functions spend a lot of their time talking to other people, so while they understand what is happening intellectually, it is still second-hand and a bit abstract. - Now we get to professional use of frontier-grade LLMs in math&code. Somewhere around 20M people (0.2%) see first-hand that large, complex projects that used to take them weeks/months can now be completed by agents with a prompt. Building apps, copying apps, translating apps, decompiling apps from binaries... This has all happened very quickly and recently - less than 1 year ago, I was writing code manually by hand, typing memorized computer code commands into a code editor character by character, occasionally pressing Tab to autocomplete a little chunk of code. - And finally we get to the ~5,000 people (~0.00006%) with access to frontier-grade systems internally. The external world has seen the preview. It looks like swarms of thousands of agents collaborating over weeks on software mega projects: minting zero days, running cyber attacks and defenses at machine speeds, discovering new science, advancing the frontier of mathematics. Things that would have taken top professionals in the industry years of work. Meanwhile, human review and comprehension are starting to fall behind. For example, people are still involved in the "archeology" of the OpenAI-HF incident from many months ago. Mathematicians may be poring over the 722 manuscripts on frontier mathematics for a while. The funnel is driven by a combination of factors: 1. The impact scales with ambition, problem size, and horizon. A question with a paragraph answer barely stresses the system. You need a reservoir of big, difficult problems that you really care about. This aspect drives the consumer / professional dimension of the funnel. 2. The jaggedness of the system (which I have written about a lot separately). Capability peaks in domains that are digital, verifiable and economically valuable. This is because LLM capability emerges from reinforcement learning on verifiable rewards on a curated environment mixture driven by revenue potential. This aspect primarily drives the area (e.g. math&code) dimension of the funnel. 3. Access. Free-tier, paid-tier, internal. So this is the weirdness of the moment. The general public has mostly not interacted with these systems. When they have, it looks like a derpy chatbot. The majority of professionals still see only a modest uplift. And a small sliver of professionals are experiencing the vertigo of the curve going vertical. And it is all happening at the same time.


















